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The Realignment Issue just will not go away

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Offline Fwrogers

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Reply #15 on: May 07, 2019, 07:14:25 AM
Heard they haven't decided on actual numbers yet. but I do know they are aiming at reducing the gap between the largest and smallest schools in each division. 4a I believe currently has a massive gap between largest and smallest enrollment numbers in the schools.



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Reply #16 on: May 07, 2019, 08:51:36 AM
theres 400 some odd schools the NCHSAA has listed on their documents from the last realignment. If you go with an even distribution of those numbers you end up with around 80 schools per classification.  4A currently already has around 80 schools in it while 3a and 2a have over 110.  If you move to 5a and its evenly distributed you still have the same 80 schools currently in 4A moving to 5a while the rest get rearranged.  Unless 5A is just going to have a small amount of schools in which case it will result in super small regions.  Take in account that some of the schools listed don't actually have wrestling and youre ending up with super small regions.

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Reply #17 on: May 07, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
My AD handed me the 2018/19 ADM numbers and had me organize schools in to a 5 class, even 20-20-20-20-20 % split.  In this split the top 20% would start somewhere around High Point Central w/ 1565 students and go up to Myers Park w/ 3513 students. 

An even 20% split seems fair, but I guess if you are a Football Coach of a school with about 1500 students and you have to play a school with 3500+ students it may not seem fair.  For wrestling (or track or swimming), do we really want a class with about 40 schools, which would be the case if the realignment only split the top 20%? 



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Reply #18 on: May 07, 2019, 11:24:46 AM
I know I will get some flack for this, but I would like to see 1 state champ.  If not, at least have a Big School state champ (biggest 50% of schools) and a Small school state champ.  Increase the state brackets from 16 to 32, but go that route.  I still like having 1a,2a,3a,4a for the duals though.



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Reply #19 on: May 07, 2019, 12:01:34 PM
No flak but that'll never happen. the number of divisions will only increase. I think the largest division 4aa or 5a whichever you would want to call it would be smaller due to the discrepancy in size of the schools involved. Football will drive wherever that divide happens.



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Reply #20 on: May 07, 2019, 01:43:26 PM
 If they go an even 20% across the board, 4A keeps all the same teams and then adds some. So the gap in the 5A division would be even bigger from the biggest school South meck (2900) to the smallest school which would have around 1500-1600

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Reply #21 on: May 08, 2019, 08:02:15 AM
What i'm hearing is they won't go 20% across the board. obviously this is a year or so away but thats what i'm hearing



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Reply #22 on: May 08, 2019, 10:47:48 AM
Yeah, there are already 8 State Champion Football Teams...



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Reply #23 on: May 08, 2019, 11:35:49 AM
More events = More $$$ for the state and the individual high school programs. 

Everybody should get a trophy (I mean participation ribbon).



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Reply #24 on: May 16, 2019, 10:34:56 PM
I wonder if the NCHSAA would ever consider different classifications for different sports?  Football might need six classes, but other sports might be better off with four or even three.



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Reply #25 on: May 17, 2019, 09:06:07 AM
I like that idea.  Go with 6 classes and and then combine classes for other sports as needed.  For wrestling we could go with three state champs. 5A/6A, 3A/4A. and 1A/2A. 

I don't see that happening though. 



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Reply #26 on: May 17, 2019, 10:49:43 AM
The state consistently putting out the top wrestlers into D1 universities and the states having the most success at the national and world level generally have 2 or 1 state champ. NJ at one point this past season had a huge percentage of the nationally ranked wrestlers. They had around 4 #1 guys. Multiple guys in the the same weight classes ranked the nation.  They have 1 state champ. PA has 2, California has 1. 

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Reply #27 on: May 27, 2019, 09:08:20 PM
I heard the same.  Subdivide the approx. 80 4A schools and leave the rest the same, with 3A and 2A over 100 schools.  It doesn't make much sense to me.

I they're thinking is 4A has such a wide range of attendance size. I know at one time it stretched from 1600ish to 3500 plus putting the smallest 4A less than half the size of the largest 4A.



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Reply #28 on: May 28, 2019, 12:36:03 PM
Thats exactly what they're thinking with 4A